Formal Attorney General Opinions

Posted November 16th, 2007 by Joe Kaiser

Your investigator Renee Shadel appears to be fascinated with tax bidder registrations cards, requesting them from every county treasurer (or so it seems).

Dear Rob,

This case has given me the opportunity to learn so many new things.

I’m particularly intrigued by your formal opinions database and all the opinions the Office of the Attorney General has generated over the years.

Fascinating stuff.

Is your staff aware of the database?

Sure doesn’t seem like it.

Check the database

You claimed in your lawsuit that I’d unlawfully obtained tax roll information by making public record requests that included “lists of individuals for commercial purposes,” assuming tax rolls to be just that.

They’re not.

As mentioned earlier, tax roll information, by virtue of AGO 1980 – No. 1, has been deemed NOT a list of individuals and as such, not a problem for me to obtain.

I think you could save us both a lot of time if you had your staff check the AGO database prior to making claims against me.

If they had, we could have avoided the embarrasment of your staff saying I was doing something wrong by requesting tax roll and tax foreclosure information.

Here’s another . . .

I’ve found another one for you. Perhaps it will save you some time.

Your investigator Renee Shadel appears to be fascinated with tax bidder registrations cards, requesting them from every county treasurer (or so it seems).

And I note the crazy letter from Greg James in Mason County alleging we’d done something wrong by bidding on our own property (he tried to extort us, btw, demanding we sell it to him for what we had into it, or else – we didn’t).

Again, so we’re clear, we bid on our own properties at tax sales.

It’s not a scam, it’s just a way to protect our interests.


Has anyone from your staff bothered to check your opinions database to see what your office’s formal opinion is regarding people like me bidding on our own properties in tax sales?

I’ll save you the trouble . . .

We believe that the purchaser of his own property at a tax sale would stand in the same relation of any other purchaser, and the overplus (overage) of the sale would be disposed of to the same party, the “record owner,” as would be the case if a stranger purchased the land.— 38 AG Opinion No. 366

Sure, it’s old, but I’ve found nothing since about it.

What does it mean?

It means I can bid on my own properties, no problem at all. And if I do, it is as if a total stranger had purchased the land.

Hope that helps.

In the arena,

Joe Kaiser

2 Responses to: “Formal Attorney General Opinions”

  1. Loya responds:
    Posted: November 16th, 2007 at 12:33 am

    Well,well,well…..isn’t this interesting. AAGs do not even read or care about their opinions……Why then should we..?…..Mr. Dick needs to know about this one. Mr. Dick is so wrong as he goes about holding court in his little tax sale arena. You know Joe, if you were an atty, I would hire you. You have, are and will kick their butts all the way.

  2. Drew H. responds:
    Posted: November 16th, 2007 at 4:35 am

    Brilliant, just brilliant! When this case unravels and you’re shown to be innocent and the AG pays all your attorney fees and your civil suit, can it reverse the settlement your partner made?
    Clearly you’re not making friends in the AG or tax departments, but you’re making tons of friends in the investing community for doing the right thing. Not everyone can afford to put it to the man, because not everyone can just use the taxpayer’s money to fuel their own ambitions.

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